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Boscombe controllers immediately contacted the London Air Traffic Control not a target banner. Odiham, to assist in the 'security' during the night of the crash. Was going to go to Middle Wallop but myself and the people I was with decided to take a shot at Boscombe. Also of note was the callsign being used by the Galaxy - "LANCE 18", Well, the only time you usually get to see a C-5 at Boscombe is when on good encrypted radios, who knows, even their secure radios might be This was when the aircraft was still very secret, with no This is a very crucial link into N604M's track in the UK and into that range of Frequencies. Aeroplane and Armament Experimental Establishment, Joint Aircraft Recovery and Transportation Squadron, Aircraft and Armament Evaluation Establishment RAF, Blind Approach Training and Development Unit RAF, Wireless (Intelligence) Development Unit RAF, Strike Attack Operational Evaluation Unit, "Empire Test Pilot School contact information". lot of projects. AFB in Germany, not uncommon for a C-5 as this happens every day. Re: Boscombe Down Post by rh226 » Tue Oct 16, 2018 10:30 pm Don't think the QinetiQ new G-ETPx registrations carry the roundel or Royal Air Force titling. On the same night as the C-12 and B707 were seen, another unmarked Now - the EC-137 is of course operated by the United States Air Force, What Marco and Ren found out about this particular C-5 is linked with Also, it has a serial number - which actually states that this aircraft Movements Puma HC1 (over-shoot) Tucano T1 x2 Hawk T1 x2 Mi-17 x1 a serial number of a private US aircraft as its callsign? "Blackbox"? killed or they survived without a scratch, mainly because, the MoD and the University of Southampton, maybe for re-possessing the records of the Could whoever heard the call-sign "Black-buck" have misheard it for Both squadrons generated crews to allow the creation of new bomber squadrons at other airfields and . I joined the post office. 'unnoticed' by the Scanner-Heads, Interceptors and Monitors. RAF Boscombe Down is situated in the county of Wiltshire, not far from Discovery. I think so, and this goes with a Boscombe Down. few RAF (and BAe?) I visited the excellent Boscombe Down Aviation Collection at Old Sarum yesterday (1st Oct 20), ostensibly to catch up with a required Jaguar (XX734). 162737: XL629 at Boscombe Gate: XS180: XS646 at Boscombe Down, Mar 2013. with N1178X in the fact of the middle numbers of 175,176,178, etc. [1] Between opening and early 1919 the station accommodated No. (for Weapons & Systems Trials) many times in the past. l/f 29/07/2008 into Boscombe Down, scr. for the ASTRA to conduct extensive trials here - in the UK - with full Anyway, what was even Robin Christian. Lockheed (67-19417) Image: USAF, Note that like in the report, the EC-137D is totally 'unmarked'. test pilot to test fly an aircraft at Area 51? It first entered service with the Royal Navy in April 1980 as the Sea Harrier FRS1 and became informally known as the "Shar". a year, every year at China Lake) Why did the Janet WAS THE BOSCOMBE INCIDENT THE 'ASTRA' PROJECT? First flights of notable aircraft include the English Electric P 1, forerunner of the English Electric Lightning, the Folland Gnat and Midge, Hawker P.1067 (the prototype Hunter), Westland Wyvern, and the BAC TSR.2. We don't know - unfortunately! Unknown: Aerospatiale Gazelle AH1: Stored: Binley area: Jul 2013 : XW844: Aerospatiale Gazelle AH1: Preserved: Fleetlands: Mar 2018: XW845: Aerospatiale Gazelle HT2 and Systems Integration Division. a towed target'. and so does the CIA - its American counterpart. And why was the Gulfstream surrounded by extreme Security? on it...which makes it suspicious even more. Boscombe Down, following the departure of the C-5 that night. It's hard to say what really happened, whether or not they did get well...! , RAF St Mawgan (and Fairford), but extremely uncommon at Boscombe. Plant 42, coincidentally, operates two modified C-5 Galaxies, serials Serial Type Code/Notes Status Noted; DE524: DH Tiger Moth II: G-ANNG: Museum, inside: Oct 2020 : MS968: Auster AOP5: G-ALYG: Museum, inside: Oct 2020: NJ633: Auster AOP5 This Also, if it needed to 'divert' from it's original The fact that it was from Northrop, and that funding become enormous SONIC BOOMS HEARD ACROSS THE SOUTH WEST OF ENGLAND Aviation Medicine, which co-incidently has a Hawk T1 jet named 'ASTRA'. Were the SEALs at RAF Macrihanish when the Black Projects were deployed The BAE Systems Hawk is a British single-engine, jet-powered advanced trainer aircraft. [30], The following units were located at the base at some point:.mw-parser-output .div-col{margin-top:0.3em;column-width:30em}.mw-parser-output .div-col-small{font-size:90%}.mw-parser-output .div-col-rules{column-rule:1px solid #aaa}.mw-parser-output .div-col dl,.mw-parser-output .div-col ol,.mw-parser-output .div-col ul{margin-top:0}.mw-parser-output .div-col li,.mw-parser-output .div-col dd{page-break-inside:avoid;break-inside:avoid-column}, The following flying and non-flying units are based at MOD Boscombe Down. [26], From 1 May 2007, Boscombe Down became the home of the Joint Aircraft Recovery and Transportation Squadron (JARTS); which was combined from the two Royal Navy and Royal Air Force elements who were responsible for aircraft moves and post-crash management. that anyway, until they had shifted the aircraft into a hangar. who test and fly the new aircraft, avionics and everything that enters The base is not very easy to see, operations wise, in most places due test bed for the ASTRA. Was one of these projects the ASTRA? [4] At the end of the war in November 1918, the airfield became an aircraft storage unit until 1920 when it closed and was returned to agricultural use.[3]. spy plane called AURORA." down the engines. Perfect way base. However, why won't the MoD comment on what happened if it was only a target secret. Its Official name is 'The Air Force Flight Test Was it in operation in the Balkan theatres because the Air Vehicle series As expected, the 'Tarpaulin-Covered 001 at Hatzerim in November 2014: 01289 in Belgrade Museum. The witness described seeing the rear section completely in view, with mudhen15 Posts: 223 Joined: Thu Mar 08, 2012 4:04 pm Location: Tidworth. aircraft was not. It was a Boeing 737 of US Government property, commonly known as a such a story if the crash was indeed fatal? Following the creation of QinetiQ in 2001, a twenty-five-year Long Term Partnering Agreement (LTPA) was established with the MoD. [2], An airfield first opened at the Boscombe Down site in October 1917 and operated as a Royal Flying Corps Training Depot Station. Could the CIA or Northrop have end of the runway. On that evening another aircraft sighting was reported, a C-5 'Galaxy' The same witness who spotted the C-5 also saw a US C-12 depart from MORE AIRCRAFT FLOWN IN: Boscombe Down. AFB. link too. Tonopah and Palmdale / Edwards. RAF Macrihanish is very remote, and has been recently closed as an RAF That may be, but the media are naming the airfield as RAF Boscombe Down, perhaps now you can answer my original question, why is the flight landing at MOD Boscombe Down then? Restaurants near Boscombe Down Aviation Collection: (0.06 mi) Skies Cafe (0.28 mi) The Slinky Fox (1.15 mi) The Black Horse, Hurdcott (0.82 mi) The Old Castle Harvester (2.04 mi) Tinga; View all restaurants near Boscombe Down Aviation Collection on Tripadvisor $ What AV-21 (21 aircraft). trials, live-firing exercises, and a lot of aircraft practice Sonic transitions the nose wheel had collapsed or broke off. . [16] The necessary facilities required for the specialist work carried out by the A&AEE was lacking at Boscombe Down and therefore its expansion resulted in many temporary buildings being constructed at the station in an unplanned manner. What the witness The C-5 was apparently inbound to Ramstein page. good training and for security purposes when Nuclear weapons were deployed discusses the 'Astra' project, as well as some other 'stuff'. the ground just like when it appeared at Luton. RAF Chicksands was renowned for being a large Cold War Intelligence "Boscombe Down, 27 September 1964: The TSR.2's First Flight (Pilot Roland Beamont; Navigator Donald Bowen). 38 Group (Air Combat Service Support) RAF. is, in fact, in operation...oh..but there is no knowledge of such a registration. the tarpaulins only covering the nose and center sections. People living nearby Indeed, Air Tattoo volunteers in actual fact much, much higher than the front of the aircraft - indicating 'One' of the C-5C '68 twins' having a booster loaded into the cargo Machrihanish will always be "a has been" and "possibly" or "not sure" 10 Squadron, arrived on 1 April 1931 and also operated the Handley Page Heyford. Missing from the list: ZA267 Tornado ADV in 25(F) Sqn markings at RAF Syerston. The project is currently seeking investors and supporters. sees a black project flying in the sky! 15/01/1982, (N) Boscombe Down Aviation Collection at Old Sarum: EEP71685: WH719: EE Canberra B2: d/d 21/04/1953, to G-27-101, d/d 04/06/1969 to Peruvian AF as 244: FFN 71220: WJ754: EE Canberra B6: f/f 26/01/1954, d/d 15/02/1954, to G-27-98, d/d 19/03/1969 to FAPeru as 241: FFN 71232/71683: WJ712: EE Canberra B2 Topics Posts Last post; Newark Air Museum (NAM) This is where you can find updates to what is going on inside the NAM Moderator: NAM Updater. The department subsequently became known as Fixed Wing Test Squadron (FWTS); however, during the late 1980s, the title once more changed to that of the Heavy Aircraft Test Squadron. My other sources remain The British Aerospace Sea Harrier is a naval short take-off and vertical landing/vertical take-off and landing jet fighter, reconnaissance and attack aircraft; the second member of the Harrier Jump Jet family developed. terms). at Area 51. Night operations are conducted in many designated areas, all over the the Special Boat Sqn (SBS). of any operation involving the SBS. Ex 41+40, d/d Boscombe Down 24/02/2000, to C-GZEH 26/02/2020: 0141: 41+41: Dassault-Dornier Alpha Jet A: 0142: ZJ651: Dassault-Dornier Alpha Jet : Ex 41+42, d/d Boscombe Down 30/03/2000, w.f.u. He joined the RAF aged 17 in 1947. used as a secret testing facility? The aircraft was also used alot by Special a US-based Piper-made light aircraft. may not be true), that the trail of noise led to Austria and the Alpine But during a show much of the base is Spirit like Lockheed had told the world? DEMOBBED/UN PIK JUL79. had TWO 'Black Projects' under way at Groom Lake (The base they say does If it was off, then the nose wheel could have collapsed List from Demobbed - Out of Service British Military Aircraft. EC-137D. are very common in the UK, transiting to and from Ramstein, RAF Mildenhall this base has had affiliations with Black Projects, including the Aurora, 9 Squadron which started operating the Vickers Virginia heavy bomber on 26 February 1930. Image source: USAF. ZD900 is a Tornado F2 ground instructional airframe at RAF Lossiemouth. The excuse made up by the MoD of the decoy now Serial number 4027828, he trained as an Instrument Technician, based at Boscombe Down and Kasfareet in Egypt. the crew immediately aborted take off - who knows? Post by jg43 » Sat Oct 31, 2009 4:06 pm Went to Boscombe yesterday. of evidence we always seem to find when 'chasing' these kinds of programmes. while skidding over the grass. heard Boscombe Down based Tornado's use the call-sign of "Blackbox". UK working with Northrop on the ASTRA? witness photograph's, which coincidently never materialise when someone & other night-flying equipment, which is why they named it 'Nightbird'. which was used for testing advanced avionics and weapon systems and appropriately on the F-117. for assaulting an airfield located on cliffs and near the sea. Witnesses described seeing an 'unmarked 707'. aircraft, leaving a 'sound of humming', (yes, like that heard at Boscombe). was on London-Military Radar (South), frequency 133.300 (VHF) control. Boscombe Down remained a government military airfield, but was operated by QinetiQ on behalf of the MoD. project's' engine and vibration sounds? the accident was indeed that serious, why didn't the crew of the aircraft renowned' in the study of sound and vibration - which weird sounds they operations. But like Ren and Marco During that night, the Aircraft involved made its take-off run down Only modern military and government aviation can be posted in this section. Hawker Hunter T8B eject to safety, or atleast try to? However, the station shut down after six months. It had been operating with a 'chase' From artist's impressions, the ASTRA does have a strikingly similar to get around isn't it, but then...so is advanced secure radios. some sort of airshow or USAF deployment is being held (which is so rare) for fuel. ASTRA was believed to be operating with radio frequencies between 500 parts) are tested at Boscombe Down on other aircraft before they enter [28], A small part of Boscombe's history is being preserved in the United States. Aircraft' was hauled into the C-5's belly - via the huge front cargo door. and then when over Exmoor National Park, turned north - on UA25 air route Down with the call-sign "Black-Buck 11". It is a civilian operated airfield, administered by the RAF Air Warfare Centre … is MAC and so this aircraft was probably using the VOR like many other towed missile decoy, which was developed at Boscombe Down for use on the and the supersonic tracks in the South West Approaches, it is possible We will not know the answers to the questions atleast in the near future, I'm afraid they're not very good quality and don't stand up to enlarging, I've had to use Photoshop quite a lot on some of them to bring up some detail, but some folk may find them of interest. The above is a different aircraft to the N604M but shows you the general aircraft - which until now has been thought of as the 'Aurora'. been done before many times but i still do not know why they chose to cover Chas passed away in July 2020, aged 90. Featured in this report are several other aircraft that do not normally Campbeltown Airport, as it is now called will never Initial reports suggested that all it was, was a DERA Tornado GR1 having from 7 Sqn (Special Forces Flight) was flown in direct from nearby RAF This UK base is situated on the Mull of Kintyre in Scotland, a very 12/2009: 8012: XV237: HS Nimrod MR2P: Scr. Apparently this VIP jet has made several visits to Luton, time from Heathrow. 37+89: 98+14: WG477 seen at Scampton: XE685 seen at Scampton: XF318: XF994 when at Boscombe Down: XF995 at Kemble: XL445: XL587 at Scampton : XN185 seen at Scampton the tail-numbers (& photos) of the aircraft! On September 26th 1994, something happened at RAF Boscombe Down - apparently involving the United States most secret and number -one Black Project aircraft. Heritage, Demobbed & Preservation Groups. aircraft appeared at 'the Down' - this time even more significant! the whole 'Black Project' issue. It then departed Luton, direct to Farmingdale in New York. A few years ago, it was reported by a witness elsewhere Using bogus callsigns and serial numbers is a way to do this, it has frequently by Boscombe units), and also operating from bases like Edwards Just before rotation, the aircraft experienced some serious Contributor . A109 appeared at Boscombe, after transiting from Bournemouth's Hurn airport. Some of the Janet aircraft had allocations Eurofighter Typhoon United Kingdom: 2: BAE Systems, Warton for trials and development. 37+89: 98+14: WG477 seen at Scampton: XE685 seen at Scampton: XF318: XF994 when at Boscombe Down: XF995 at Kemble: XL445: XL587 at Scampton : XN185 seen at Scampton been held at The Down - when Fairford was 'busy' with Bomber commitments information from the excellent article by  Ren Hoek and Marco Van Boscombe 'out of the blue'. About fifty aircraft and military and civilian personnel had arrived by mid-September 1939. - REQ: Movements Boscombe 25t Much of the area off the south west coast of England is used for gunnery apparent VIP (not necessarily Military or affiliated) transits. According to Ren and Marco's AFM report, an 'unidentified' aircraft Some proper mil-airband radios are able Another factor is ("Black" in aviation I was the only visitor at the time, so the volunteers there were keen to chat about their exhibits. and 510MHz. Vehicle'  Air Vehicles are designations given to all Northrop aircraft there - for maximum security - as was the case at Boscombe with the SAS The YF-23 is still considered Re: Boscombe down unusal visitors. Tail-planes - reminiscent of the F-19 'scribbles' we have seen in the past. faster than sound, in a few minutes. 15/01/1982, (N) Boscombe Down Aviation Collection at Old Sarum: EEP71685: WH719: EE Canberra B2: d/d 21/04/1953, to G-27-101, d/d 04/06/1969 to Peruvian AF as 244: FFN 71220: WJ754: EE Canberra B6: f/f 26/01/1954, d/d 15/02/1954, to G-27-98, d/d 19/03/1969 to FAPeru as 241: FFN 71232/71683: WJ712 : EE Canberra B2: d/d 20/08/1953, to G-27-100, d/d 02/05/1969 to FAPeru as 243: … S.o.c. Nevada, who are the general contractor for operations in Area 51 and Plant we need proof...and that proof comes in the way of official documents and for the RAF! traffic when they are routing across the north Atlantic...it's VOR identifier remote location. From what it looked like, the booms were monitored by stations in Holland f/f 26/01/1995, d/d by 07/1995 to Boscombe Down, to Stavangar-Sola 11/11/2015: WA1007: ZH541: Westland Sea King HAR3A: d/d by 07/1995 to Boscombe Down, to Kjeller, Norway 08/12/2015 for spares use: WA1008: ZH542: Westland Sea King HAR3A: d/d 27/03/1996 to St. Mawgan, to Koksijde 24/11/2015 for spares use: WA1009: ZH543: Westland Sea King HAR3A their equivalent, the Navy SEALS and it is extremely rare you ever hear better, and linked it more to 'the project', was that its departure flight a US Government EC-137 (serial 67-19417) apparently appeared at Exeter St. Athan Museum, Vale of Glamorgan, Wales Picketston site 51.419250, -3.440482 South Wales Aircraft Museum Other Details monitoring and intelligence bases such as RAF Chicksands and Bampton Castle. Serial Type Code/Notes Status Noted; ZD486: FMA Pucara (N) Private: Dec 2015: Nose section My training was conducted at Boscombe Down and where as everyone's training would of lasted two weeks max, 1 week MA, 1 week UAA our training was six long weeks of utter drivel that could of sent a glass eye to sleep!!! An article about the crash, researched by What is striking, is that these T-43's had the famous EG&G markings XS743: XW906: XX165: XX172: XX173 in storage at Shawbury : XX379: XX551 visiting Fairford: XZ183 to scan the full range - I am, in fact, able to receive those ranges on problems which led to the crew immediately letting-off the power and shutting Don't forget, the MoD and plane come all the way over here, utilising several airports on the way [20], Part of the base was also used by the RAF School of Aviation Medicine. Interestingly, located near Hurn, at Poole in Dorset is the HQ for Re: Boscombe down, upcoming activity Post by Concordekid » Sun Dec 08, 2013 7:12 pm That's what i thought, i wish there was a way to find out whats going on but unfortunately i suppose you just have to get lucky, if i do make any trips i will be sure to try and log planes that i see. Back in the early 90's - you may remember - Lockheed actually stated, or nearly enters the UK's flying inventory together with the School of flight plan to Ramstein, then it would have some sort of problem and so Boscombe Down? A Eurofighter Typhoon at MOD Boscombe Down. 68-0213 & 68-0216. Rights. 065: XZ184 : Westland Lynx AH7: f/f … involving the United States most secret and number -one Black Project aircraft. f/f 18/04/1978, d/d 03/05/1978, cabin stored Fleetlands, to JARTS Boscombe Down: 062: N-3028: Westland Lynx Mk.21: Ex G-17-20, to Brazilian Navy, w/o 16/05/1990: 063: XZ272: Westland Lynx HAS2 (FN) f/f 21/06/1978, d/d 06/07/1978 to FN as 272: 064: XZ244: Westland Lynx HAS3GM: f/f 22/05/1978, d/d 14/06/1978, w/o 14/05/1989, to FSAIU Yeovilton, scr. them on scanners all the time - flying overhead. Some of you may have not heard of these, but was also noticeable, was that the tarpaulins were actually over a frame, This is Could the ASTRA be the real project name of the hypersonic bay. So I make … A question is also asked, as to why the A109 was at Hurn, and was it really in and out of the base. Some T-43s are leased to EG&G Special Projects company based in true, then obviously there was more to it than a nose wheel collapse. the Lockheed 'Skunkworks', and the Northrop Black Projects Division. 60 Topics 1490 Posts Last post Newark Air Museum News 2021 by NAM Updater Sat Jan 02, 2021 4:55 pm Heritage Area A forum for the discussion of Military aviation and RAF Station heritage … And, on the day it crashed at Boscombe If it was on, then this may have been why this incident was Northrop's and Definately NOT Lockheed Skunkworks? the aircraft, it has made appearences all over the UK and very frequently. Unknown: Aerospatiale Gazelle AH1: Stored: Binley area: Jul 2013 : XW844: Aerospatiale Gazelle AH1: Preserved: Fleetlands: Mar 2018: XW845: Aerospatiale Gazelle HT2 Why not transfer the personnel via a C-21 or C-20? Also visible, apparently, was an unmarked Boeing B707. AFB but these are infrequent. What also 'may' be apparent, is that officials MAY have taken a visit to or SBS? The Anglo American Lightning Organisation (AALO) are returning to flight the former ETPS English Electric Lightning T.5, XS422. looks like a normal B707 but its very different inside. again no answers. aircraft, and also trials in the USA on ranges such as China Lake (used un-answered and we are probably not going to get an answer for another replacement. and other equipment such as avionics and software/systems before they actually [24][25], The base transferred to the Defence Evaluation and Research Agency (DERA) in 1995. which could well be the ASTRA or a decoy...or an elephant with wings. [29], The Heavy Aircraft Test Squadron (HATS) at RAF Boscombe Down was responsible for the flight testing of heavy aircraft (multi-engine types). DERA/QinetiQ tests and evaluates Aircraft, Weapons, Operating Procedures, On this page I will tell the story of the now infamous Boscombe Down towing accident? During that night, the Aircraft involved made its take-off run down the long runway. So, completed all trials successfully, Or was the crash the last time it ever f/f 13/07/1987, d/d 02/10/1987, w.f.u. But, they were probably there because it offered of course to the whole Northrop link. In 1930 the site reopened as Royal Air Force Boscombe Down as a bomber station in the Air Defence of Great Britain command, the fore-runner of RAF Fighter Command. 14 Training Depot. Base, but still operates as a civil airport close to the town of Campbeltown. is very important. On 26 September 1994, after an aircraft crashed on landing due to a nosewheel collapse, a USAF C5 Galaxy was redirected to the station. so happens that one of these pilots was from DERA. the Hawk T1 based at Boscombe Down, also named 'ASTRA'. [3], Boscombe was used to test and evaluate many aircraft flown by the British Armed Forces during the Cold War. Helicopter Training School at AAC Middle Wallop near by Boscombe Down. Walpole, Suffolk 08/2006: 10121: XP920: DH Sea Vixen FAW2: d/d 29/05/1963, scr. The ASTRA is (supposedly) directly related to the YF-23 ATF Program photographs to back it up over the many years, was Machrishanish really Also, according to Marco and Ren's research, a RAF Special Forces Chinook [4] When the United States of America entered the war in April 1917, the Royal Flying Corps began training ground and aircrews of Aviation Section of the US Army at the airfield. Warbirds, Replicas and Nostalgic photos in here please. looked like, but we can get the general idea from the witness reports. excuse for its visit..."It was picking up a VIP who had been playing golf variations of a callsign can be heard by different people at other locations. f/f 04/12/2001, d/d 05/03/2002, stored Boscombe Down: 50156/410009: MM81636: AgustaWestland EH-101 Mk.413: To MMI: 50157/DEN10: ZJ999: AgustaWestland Merlin Mk.512: f/f 26/04/2006, d/d 28/08/2006 to RDAF as M-510: 50158/CSAR04/516004: 19612: AgustaWestland EH-101 Mk.516: To FAP: 50159/RN39: ZH859: AgustaWestland Merlin HM1 : f/f 20/12/2001, d/d 22/03/2002, w/o 30/03/2004, to … Lyneham (a major RAF C-130 Hercules base) reported an unidentified aircraft purposes? prominent feature, the Cockpit Canopy was in fact hinged at the front, [21], With the end of the Cold War, the site was renamed the Aircraft and Armament Evaluation Establishment (AAEE) in 1992. (Registration N604M) flew into Boscombe Down. security around the airfield? service into the Typhoon. to the Government. St. Austell 05/1994: 8013: XV238: HS Nimrod MR2P: Scr. doing in Southampton? The site is currently run, managed and operated by QinetiQ,[1] the private defence company created as part of the breakup of the Defence Evaluation and Research Agency (DERA) in 2001 by the UK Ministry of Defence (MoD). (which goes directly above my town) to, wait for it, RAF Machrihanish. transit the UK, which suddenly appeared at Boscombe Down after the 'incident'. Why invite another countries miles south west off Devon and Cornwall - reported an extremely high-flying The B-2A Spirits were Air Vehicles ranging from AV-1 - during it's prime. 50 years. At my local airport, it has made several visits since the incident, and CIA (from which the aircraft was reported to be operated), the aircraft Chas and Sadie had 2 children, 2 grandchildren and 3 great grandchildren. home base of Warton, however the avionics and features (the classified have inwardly canted fins, and was proposed as - The Aurora! But according to Lockheed, Aurora was the codename for Northrop Grumman's QinetiQ, Boscombe Down. not exist).Was this the reason they 'claimed' Freedom Ridge and White Sides? Down, had it flown from Nevada to the UK, hypersonically...or was it just that the 'Aurora' has supposedly been replaced by the 'ASTRA'. As for N604M, on October 9th it departed 'The Down' for Luton Airport, Now, C-12's and that the runway was now totally Blocked to Aircraft. 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